the neck back in to alignment. © Frank Ford, 2007; Photos by FF, Back to Index Page on this bolt will handle pretty much any amount of screw tightening. So, I cheered up and sure enough, things got worse. low action. Draw the lines for the side taper and use a bandsaw to cut away as much of that as you can, then smooth the sides on your 6x48 belt sander. Your target is a neck angle somewhere between 2-3 degrees of the plane of the rim head, depends on the banjo, neck scale, etc. a standard banjo neck attachment these days. oldwoodchuckb - Posted - 01/14/2009: 19:46:50, You aren't going to be able to work fast enough to use hide glue the way you are proposing. The bolt had a simple bend that would have held it The Seeger crowd covets the dowel stick models, because they just plain sound better. You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link: http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/136940. It makes those old crappy banjos come alive again. As for the Stew Mac clamp....I've used dozens. fingerboard touches the head. This is when you can figure out if there are any axis issues to be corrected. All Rights Reserved. Weekly newsletter includes free lessons, favorite member content, banjo news and more. I drilled out the heel using a 3/4" end mill to make a nice flat bottom Begin by drawing through the square hole in the pot...onto the end of the heel....and draw a line from corner to corner to locate the center. The neck attachment bolt has pulled loose and the heel 1922 Gibson MB-3 If you can't get the string ht (12th fret) you want by just moving and regluing the dowel in the existing hole, then you may need to fill (dowel) and redrill the tenon hole in the neck. Whats the best way to be sure you get the neck angle right? attachment bolt is pulling a section of the central black veneer along touchup. Banjo Neck Reset: Remove the banjo neck, remove lags, re-angle the neck, reinstall, string and setup. save the banjos has a good tutorial: http://savethebanjos.com/DOWEL%20ST...0REMOVAL.htm, banjobart - Posted - 01/17/2009: 09:45:01, I use the same rig as for removing Martin guitar necks. See above. Here's the bolt I used to replace the L-shaped original. Drill a hole of sufficient depth keeping the drill squared to the end of the heel cut. But it expands as it dries and sometiomes pushed the dowel out a bit, and is heat resistant and waterproof. Good luck, let us know know how it goes. Now I can set this one up with a nice tall bridge and Pshew! The neck has pulled forward as a result of the high tension of eight strings tuned to pitch. This neck-reset jig sets the neck angle according to how high you want the bridge to be. Drill a tiny pilot hole right along the joint and about 1/4 inch deep fill with water and zap it with the soldering gun. The glue still is holding on so I need to get the dowel out and glue it back at the correct angle. Thumbnail Article So after removing several dowel sticks, it dawned on me that maybe good ol' Titebond is the way to go. The jig is planed true, and the … This old mandolin banjo has a familar problem. For a Vega style dowel stick, the side to side taper is taken equally off of either side, ant the top to bottom taper is taken from the side of the dowel stick that's facing the underside of the head. $155.00: General Fretted Instrument Repair: Partial Refret, with binding (per fret) Plus $35.00 for the first fret: $50.00 plus $20.00 per fret: Complete Refret, without binding: '. All Forums Two questions:What is the best way to steam off the dowel? Your target is a neck angle somewhere between 2-3 degrees of the plane of the rim head, depends on the banjo, neck scale, etc. For this I use a short piece of .060 binding scrap....or you could use a dime...which is roughly .060 thick. Other Banjo-Related Topics Clamp it on with a piece of wrapped making tape and use Titebond. That will let the air and excess glue out of the hole.Dan from Minneapolis but in Harlingen, Texas till AprilI heard a voice say, "Cheer up. Neck re-set jig Tuesday, July 5, 2016. Set the dowel stick in the hole and set the pot on the dowel stick. So, I cheered up and sure enough, things got worse. Good Luck''Ya gotta get all them tunes in you head'', Dan Pennington - Posted - 01/15/2009: 17:47:06. 4 hrs, 'Bach (Petzold) Minuet in G: banjo duet' 4 hrs, 'RB800 Resonator, rim, & neck for sale' 5 hrs, 'Explain the ball bearing system to me' 5 hrs. I've set hundreds, drilling the 3/4" hole with a hand drill with a 3/4" forstner bit. The glue has let go to the point that the neck has some play in it and the action is too high. BTBefore you put the dowel stick tenon into the neck, score three or four deep grooves down the length of the tenon. In fact, the neck has moved so far that the cantilevered fingerboard touches the head. And, as another safety feature, I made up a new heel Then glue in a new stick, finished to match. Sit the pot on the neck/dowel stick and make sure the fret plane is correct, and leave it alone to dry overnight. The original stick angle was set for gut strings, a low bridge and high action. Combine this with some steam from a tea kettle - or any container with a small directed steam outlet. Position the neck in the vise, fingerboard up, with the face of the heel square to the top of the vise. Don’t reset the dowel stick on a banjo by boring another hole through the rim at the tailpiece end. cap with a cross grain layer of maple underneath and an ebony layer for Take your playing to the next level with the help of a local or online banjo teacher. Its a rather tedious process process. The glue would reset, the two surfaces that the glue bonded would be in a slightly different new relationship, and the neck would stay that way. 'Boil the Cabbage Down bluegrass banjo lesson by Chris Quinn.' as if it were solid ebony. I have not had a failure in thousands of necks with this glue. tuned to pitch. Once you are set up this is a 20 minute job total. . Then warm the neck, insert the glue and dowel and then put the neck on the drum and apply some pressure to make sure the neck is seated correctly. With the heel cap off, it's easy to see the problem Hundreds of quality new and used banjos available. Please click on the small images to see the large views. I lay the whole thing out on the benchbench, letting the peghead droop over the side so I can get some neck angle. For glue up, I lay it out as above, clamp and level the rim to the bench, clamp the neck into position, checking the string ht. Some dowels are really in ther and others are ready to pop out. Dan Pennington - Posted - 01/15/2009: 03:50:23. I recently bought an old Slingerlands tenor where the dowel was completely loose in teh neck - there had never been any adhesion at all. Neck/Dowel Repair If you look closely, you can see that the loose - which are up to about 40 now.Banjo Brad is still hosting "How To Mold A Mighty Pinky" and some other material at: http://www.pricklypearmusic.netA site full of interesting banjo material, Greetings Doc, welcome to the HO! In order to provide a solid mounting for my new bolt, Plenty of time for working it. that the black dye used in this veneer had caused it to deteriorate over The dowel was completely loose, too, so it was easy You'd have to pose that question to those folks. the outside. Wiggle the neck off the stick.Use regular Titebond to reglue. If you do have to redrill, you can figure out how to drill at a 2.5 degree offset holes, or I prefer to jig up the appropriate angle by using the distance from level across the head down the neck dropped to the 12th fret for the string ht. Yeah man, original Titebond, the yellow stuff. Call me st 724-943-4581 and I'll be happy to try and assist you.WyattFrom this discussion:http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/a...PIC_ID=90247Dan from Minneapolis but in Harlingen, Texas till AprilI heard a voice say, "Cheer up. Hundreds of quality new and used banjos available. Set into the maple cross grain plug, the wood screws As long as the entry hole is clean, you can shave the inside of the hole to correct any axis issues, and use a mixture of titebond and sawdust to set the stick.Here's the drill for setting the stick.....Clamp the banjo neck in your vise with leather padded or urethane jaws....with the heel facing you, headstock toward the floor, applying pressure to the sides of the neck. Some folks say to put the neck in a vise and set the drum and dowel down on the dowel using yellow glue and sawdust.I'm not so hot on that method. Thank you for your thoughts.I don't need to drill the heel. They work fine. In fact, the neck has moved so far that the cantilevered FRETS.COM It won't creep if you properly clamp/cinch your joint, but too much can seal the hole so that when you push the dowel in, no air can get out and you can't properly seat the dowel. all the time, level the neck side to side and use a straight edge to be sure the neck is perfectly straight peghead tip to tailpiece. Once it starts to cool the bond strength plummets - which is why we used to re-attach a lot of dowel sticks in the 60s and 70s. I have to do a reset of some dowel sticks on some vintage banjos.
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